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WELL WOW that little session of listening to Halsey's "Castle" sure did turn into a crackmobile headcanonical backstory extravaganza for kupop-o-verse Saga Frontier dramatis personae.
the tl;dr of it is that Lord Orlouge's creepy asshole of a father was a creepy asshole, was also the most JEALOUS AND NASTY UN-FAE/YOUMA FUCKING PERSON AND LOUSY SPOUSE AND DAD OH MY GOD, struck a deal with "Ajora" Glabados because they both had hissy-pissy-fit beefs with T-Biz, gradually lost his power and longevity because he was a lying sack of crap (fae and youma both gradually lose their mana and become mortal and REAL fragile if they are lying sacks of crap--to themselves or others--because they traded their ability to deceive to T-Biz in exchange for long life), and eventually got killed and possessed his own son.
So Orlouge-in-SaGa is actually mostly his dad: Lord Orgause, the Fallen Beguiler. and when Asellus beats the fuck out of him with Asura, IT EATS HIS SOUL WHEEEE
and Orlouge is free. and bruised. and sore as fuck. but free.
hooray :D
and Orlouge is like "thank you! uh wow. I was. an ass????? I'm gonna. I'm gonna just. Like. Fix what happened bnecause I was a smug ass and I tried to beat up my eldritch nightmare dad alone."
and Asellus goes "K cool just don't be a fuckface again."
SO YEAH THAT IS A THING
also the reason that Orlouge was even possessable in the first place is
(a) thanatos is his dad (Orlouge happened before t-biz became rabies-having)
(b) thanatos's power manifested in orlouge as "you can draw a dead person's soul to you"--which is how Asura got forged, but Asura rejected Orgause and chose Asellus HOORAY SAPIENT WEAPONRY
Asura btw does not EAT souls, it just slurpees the energy surrounding them and sends them off this mortal coil.
so
yes
there is all this shakespearian asshole-dad nonsense and gothic melodrama going on, but it's Square's fault anyway that I went down this road, because have you guys SEEN Chateau Aiguille. the whole youma/mystic storyline was crying out for bughouse blindside gothic mayhem and bitey ghosts.
*cough*
so that was a thing.
i've had too much coffee today.
in conclusion i suspect that a lot of vicky's chunk of storyline is digging up and bringing to light all this historical bullshit so everyone can figure out just what the hell thanatos's god damned problem is.
the tl;dr of it is that Lord Orlouge's creepy asshole of a father was a creepy asshole, was also the most JEALOUS AND NASTY UN-FAE/YOUMA FUCKING PERSON AND LOUSY SPOUSE AND DAD OH MY GOD, struck a deal with "Ajora" Glabados because they both had hissy-pissy-fit beefs with T-Biz, gradually lost his power and longevity because he was a lying sack of crap (fae and youma both gradually lose their mana and become mortal and REAL fragile if they are lying sacks of crap--to themselves or others--because they traded their ability to deceive to T-Biz in exchange for long life), and eventually got killed and possessed his own son.
So Orlouge-in-SaGa is actually mostly his dad: Lord Orgause, the Fallen Beguiler. and when Asellus beats the fuck out of him with Asura, IT EATS HIS SOUL WHEEEE
and Orlouge is free. and bruised. and sore as fuck. but free.
hooray :D
and Orlouge is like "thank you! uh wow. I was. an ass????? I'm gonna. I'm gonna just. Like. Fix what happened bnecause I was a smug ass and I tried to beat up my eldritch nightmare dad alone."
and Asellus goes "K cool just don't be a fuckface again."
SO YEAH THAT IS A THING
also the reason that Orlouge was even possessable in the first place is
(a) thanatos is his dad (Orlouge happened before t-biz became rabies-having)
(b) thanatos's power manifested in orlouge as "you can draw a dead person's soul to you"--which is how Asura got forged, but Asura rejected Orgause and chose Asellus HOORAY SAPIENT WEAPONRY
Asura btw does not EAT souls, it just slurpees the energy surrounding them and sends them off this mortal coil.
so
yes
there is all this shakespearian asshole-dad nonsense and gothic melodrama going on, but it's Square's fault anyway that I went down this road, because have you guys SEEN Chateau Aiguille. the whole youma/mystic storyline was crying out for bughouse blindside gothic mayhem and bitey ghosts.
*cough*
so that was a thing.
i've had too much coffee today.
in conclusion i suspect that a lot of vicky's chunk of storyline is digging up and bringing to light all this historical bullshit so everyone can figure out just what the hell thanatos's god damned problem is.