Yeah. It's very much a matter of 'everyone's brain is different so everyone's treatment would have to be'. I won't - and didn't up there either - suggest that medz r good fur ev'rything. One of my close friends with ADD cannot take the usual trio of meds because they all make her sick.
'X didn't work for Y because of Z' is a legitimate story development; again, I didn't suggest that it wasn't. And I wouldn't, because that'd be dumb. I'm still going to insist that people do their homework, though - it's not hard to google. There's really not much excuse any more for not being able to find information about fairly common topics. And if google doesn't work, the library may - and there's comms like little_details on LJ.
I can generally tell the difference between 'didn't do homework for some reason but isn't harping' and 'didn't bother with homework on account of agenda'. Lecturing and moralizing has a specific flavour to it.
Re: the depression, I was discussing the...well, you can't really call it 'standard', but I guess 'usual' might sort of work? The depression that isn't associated with/attached to a psychosis. (God, that was clumsy wording.) I know that the kind that comes with bipolar disorder/manic depression, gets treated with such meds, and I just wiki'd and found out about Psychotic Major depression which I am -sure- I'd heard of before... But I digress. That one you usually need an antideressant and antipsychotic for, yeah. Either way I ought to have specified that I meant 'run of the mill depression'. Now I look daft. :B
Anyway - I think that people assume that regular-flavoured depression is treated with harder-core meds because regular-flavoured depression doesn't show up too often in mass media unless they're talking about someone who's made a suicide attempt (and if I had a nickel for everyone who thinks depression always ends in suicide I'd be a very very rich woman) or who is going to make one and is freaking out and needs to be sedated etc., or the media're actually showing a media'd-up version of psychotic depression because it's more dramatic than the regular shit. The regular shit is usually less conducive to drama-ing up to the extreeeeeeme. For me it was very perpetual-bleh, being unable to get out of bed much, losing my energy and appetite, not seeing the point of anything, having the 'bar' on my moods lowered...it's like a constant smouldering rage and hatred turned totally inward, is what a lot of my friends who'd dealt with it describe, and that's not inaccurate. While sometimes that rage spills out (you've seen when this happens to me - I am for the most part a lot better but my self-image is still prone to dying in holes and when that happens I'm certain everyone loathes me and wants me gone), it's not a very flash-and-pyrotechnics-and-Trogdor thing for the most part. Bipolar disorder shown in media is a tiny tiny bit more common, so I suspect that REALLY lazy writers figure they can just chop the mania off and go from there. Never mind that it's not the same frickin' - yeah.
I know that symptomatology (what the hell, firefox, it is too a word) is different from person to person. Hell, that's what left me undiagnosed with ADD forever. The only person who thought I had it when I was a kid was this terrified teacher who seemed afraid of kids in general and who had probably JUST heard about ADD and was armchair diagnosing every weird kid. And I'd never want to be the kind of jerk who goes 'your experience is not like mine, so you're wrong/lying/mistaken' seeing as those kind of jerks made my life VERY SHITTY for a while...
Anyway.
I think a lot of people just go by mass media and don't do homework, and that's frustrating; I think a lot of people will, based on this or based on their own misconceptions, push agendas and present plain erroneous information, and that's aggravating.
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Date: 2009-12-28 12:56 am (UTC)'X didn't work for Y because of Z' is a legitimate story development; again, I didn't suggest that it wasn't. And I wouldn't, because that'd be dumb. I'm still going to insist that people do their homework, though - it's not hard to google. There's really not much excuse any more for not being able to find information about fairly common topics. And if google doesn't work, the library may - and there's comms like little_details on LJ.
I can generally tell the difference between 'didn't do homework for some reason but isn't harping' and 'didn't bother with homework on account of agenda'. Lecturing and moralizing has a specific flavour to it.
Re: the depression, I was discussing the...well, you can't really call it 'standard', but I guess 'usual' might sort of work? The depression that isn't associated with/attached to a psychosis. (God, that was clumsy wording.) I know that the kind that comes with bipolar disorder/manic depression, gets treated with such meds, and I just wiki'd and found out about Psychotic Major depression which I am -sure- I'd heard of before... But I digress. That one you usually need an antideressant and antipsychotic for, yeah. Either way I ought to have specified that I meant 'run of the mill depression'. Now I look daft. :B
Anyway - I think that people assume that regular-flavoured depression is treated with harder-core meds because regular-flavoured depression doesn't show up too often in mass media unless they're talking about someone who's made a suicide attempt (and if I had a nickel for everyone who thinks depression always ends in suicide I'd be a very very rich woman) or who is going to make one and is freaking out and needs to be sedated etc., or the media're actually showing a media'd-up version of psychotic depression because it's more dramatic than the regular shit. The regular shit is usually less conducive to drama-ing up to the extreeeeeeme. For me it was very perpetual-bleh, being unable to get out of bed much, losing my energy and appetite, not seeing the point of anything, having the 'bar' on my moods lowered...it's like a constant smouldering rage and hatred turned totally inward, is what a lot of my friends who'd dealt with it describe, and that's not inaccurate. While sometimes that rage spills out (you've seen when this happens to me - I am for the most part a lot better but my self-image is still prone to dying in holes and when that happens I'm certain everyone loathes me and wants me gone), it's not a very flash-and-pyrotechnics-and-Trogdor thing for the most part. Bipolar disorder shown in media is a tiny tiny bit more common, so I suspect that REALLY lazy writers figure they can just chop the mania off and go from there. Never mind that it's not the same frickin' - yeah.
I know that symptomatology (what the hell, firefox, it is too a word) is different from person to person. Hell, that's what left me undiagnosed with ADD forever. The only person who thought I had it when I was a kid was this terrified teacher who seemed afraid of kids in general and who had probably JUST heard about ADD and was armchair diagnosing every weird kid. And I'd never want to be the kind of jerk who goes 'your experience is not like mine, so you're wrong/lying/mistaken' seeing as those kind of jerks made my life VERY SHITTY for a while...
Anyway.
I think a lot of people just go by mass media and don't do homework, and that's frustrating; I think a lot of people will, based on this or based on their own misconceptions, push agendas and present plain erroneous information, and that's aggravating.